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The other problem with these companies is getting smallish numbers of chips is generally expensive and difficult. I have found candidates from Marvell, Vitesse, and Broadcom.

This seems nuts to me. Can you imagine datasheeet hard it would be to design anything if every chip you used had NDAs attached to it? John Adair Enterpoint Ltd. I can only hope these companies stop being so snobbish as they get rapid volume turnoff in the current recession in their favoured consumer markets.

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It is cheap, low power, available, and they give out the datasheets without an NDA. All claim to use about half the power, are much smaller, and don’t need the 1. For example, I found this schematic containing an 88E in less than a minute of searching: The fact that other users have been forced to redact pages of schematics tells me that this is a serious problem.

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Introduction to Microcontrollers Mike Silva. The problem is that all of them require an Datasbeet just to see the datasheet. We didn’t think it was worth incorporating in development boards, or modules, if our customers couldn’t get the basic information.

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I don’t see how this clashes with open source hardware though. Anybody have any experience with it?

Plus, all the source code is open as well, so who knows what secret registers that might reveal. The schematic merely shows the pinout.

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Micrel has nothing gigabit on their website. Sign in Sign in Remember me Forgot username or password? On Dec 17, 2: The pinout isn’t covered by the NDA, as that information is already published in schematics that you can download. I am not a lawyer, and you should read the terms of the NDA very closely. Besides, I don’t want to reward such bad behavior by dataheet chip companies. An NDA might be more of a problem for the software; device driver source typically contains information about many of the PHY internal registers.

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It has 4 problems: On 17 Dec, I mean, what could possibly be NDA-worthy in the datasheet for a 4 year old part that implements a technology GbE which is nearly a decade old? Create free account Forgot password? We have datasyeet the same problem and partially why we have not as yet got a phy module at gigabit available.