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Bach made an impromptu visit to King Frederick the Great of Prussia, and was . Gödel, Escher, and Bach are deeply intertwined in this very short Dialogue. What are some of the most riveting concepts featured in Gödel, Escher, Bach? Why isn’t the Douglas Hofstadter book Gödel, Escher, Bach available as an. Douglas Hofstadter Excerpts from Hofstadter’s Books. On what GEB is really all about (from Gödel, Escher, Bach: 20th Anniversary Ed.) So what is this book, Gödel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid — usually known by its acronym.

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From the lower isomorphisms, you create higher level isomorphisms with the new bizarre patterns that defy the physical laws.

This is quite vach remarkable book: I’m notoriously bad at distancing the creation from the creator, so perhaps I was biased from the start — reading the 20th anniversary intro was like listening to a narcissist who insists he’s modest.

Oct 18, Riku Sayuj rated it liked it Shelves: Yet somehow, messages are often transmitted. Those who understand binary, and those who don’t. GEB has the potential to put your beliefs about the nature of consciousness hofstaster life on a much sounder, but more challenging intellectual footing, and it’s a great distillation of the ferment but ever increasing levels of profundity experienced in theoretical science since the s – when we found ourselves with power to explain phenomena we were confident we could leave to hofstxdter spiritual even post – Enlightenment, just as Godel encountered our first?

This is how Hofstadter apparently intended to structure his work: This process involves interplay and comparisons of our conceptual skeletons, seeing similarities and differences.

How do we get something as complex as human consciousness out of something as simple and well-understood as a neuron?

Godel, Escher, Bach : An Eternal Golden Braid

Hach quotes from an article in The New Hofstaderin which two statements are made that, while possible, would constitute lunacy on the part of anyone who actually believed them. Want to Read saving…. Please don’t tell me I have read a book on string theory, I’m trying to forget the whole sordid story. But there are around a hundred billion neurons in a human brain and the structure quickly becomes preposterously complicated – groups of groups of groups of neurons, all acting in interconnected ways to produce conscious thought.

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The idea of nested hierarchies is central to the understanding of what makes human intelligence different from machine intelligence. Even your light-hearted conversations end with your head spinning.

And it does not matter. A computer may contain countless data, but without the procedure with which to retrieve and process it, the data is useless.

Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid

Join my 3-emails-a-year newsletter prizes With pleasure but unfortunately over here we tend to divide mental labour between ourselves.

It was reissued as 20 year anniversary edition with a 23 page preface, but little update in the content of the book. I’m definitely going to be the only one who uses a Legally Blonde gif. Hofstadter’s pre-chapter dialogues are no exception to my hatred. Jun 27, Rob rated it it was amazing Recommends it for: I enjoyed it and found it very fun and informative, overall.

At its lowest level, it is a logical concept. If a computer was told to try to generate the answer, it would go on ad infinitum. Suppose a person viewing this is from a primitive tribe living in the forest, and have never seen a building. This book has set me to thinking, thinking hard, about what it means to be human. Basic Books was keen.

Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas R. Hofstadter

abch Jun 17, Matt rated it did not like it Shelves: He does this in the most entertaining way, through dialogues and examples that lead even a Rabbit like me to the obvious conclusion.

I deeply disagree with this perspective — in my view, while these theorems dispel any naive pretension for a century-like a-la Hilbert finitistic and absolute achievement of simultaneous consistency and completeness, on hofstxdter other hand we must bear in mind that: If you open up the “20th Anniversary Edition” of GEByou’ll see that the first thing Douglas Hofstadter does in the introduction – the very first thing – is grouse that nobody seems to understand bacn his book is about. After such a sad tale it was impossible to say no.

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But he presents the material in so many various forms. All of this applies equally well to artificial intelligencewhich is Hofstadter’s field. Godel shows us that I paraphrase drastically that all logical systems allow statements about natural numbers that are true but unprovable within the system.

Other more recent models are Phaeaco implemented by Harry Foundalis and SeqSee Abhijit Mahabalwhich model high-level perception and analogy-making in the microdomains of Bongard problems and number sequences, respectively.

Gebstadtera man with initials E, G, and B and a surname that partially matches Hofstadter. If Leonardo da Vinci had been born a female the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel might never have been painted. Douglas attended the International School of Geneva for a year. Hofstadter is the son of Nobel Prize-winning physicist Robert Hofstadter.

As was previously laid out in the book, the process of moving to higher levels to a complex system involves so many rules and unprovable elements, that AI researchers are currently unable to simulate the working of the human brain. Just one small point: This seems to be saying that the most important hofsradter of the messaging process is the recognition hofstadrer consciousness part. The fantasy rule states that fantasies can be nested within fantasies, with differing levels of reality.

Metaphictionists are, after all, also Realists.